GREEN MAN INN, #
34 or 35 Lord Street
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| The density of town centre drinking establishment is typified on this map of the Lancaster Road / Lord Street / Tithebarn Street area in the second half of the 19th century. The "Joiners' Arms" on the map became the "Derby Arms" when the house with that name was demolished in the 1890's. |
1798 Mentioned in relation to the Elections of that year. See, also, Sale Notice dated 23.3.1850, below
1807 John Hogget died w/c 13.4.1807. Notice said 'Formerly of the Green Man'
1818 - 21 Walter Foss
1825 - 29 Robert Hind
18 ?? Roger Woodcock
1836 Mr. Rickerby
1837 Mr. Worden
1841 William Hayes d. 8.11.1841 aged 38 years.
1850 John Carter
1851 Squire Wolstenholme
1853 Mr. Graystock
1853 - 56 William Hayton
1856 - 67 John Aspden
1869 James Seed
1871 Robert Kirkham
1873 Mrs. N. Morley & L. Gibson
1836 Mr. Rickerby
1837 Mr. Worden
1841 William Hayes d. 8.11.1841 aged 38 years.
1850 John Carter
1851 Squire Wolstenholme
1853 Mr. Graystock
1853 - 56 William Hayton
1856 - 67 John Aspden
1869 James Seed
1871 Robert Kirkham
1873 Mrs. N. Morley & L. Gibson
1876 Joseph Edwards
1876 - 77 Henry Gibson Thompson
1877 - 79 Adam Blackburn
1879 - 81 Robert Wilkinson
1881 - 85 James Edward Billsborough
1885 - 86 William Thomas Bilsboruogh
1886 - 88 Elizabeth Alice Bilsborough
1888 - 89 Elizabeth Fell
1890 - 93 Alfred Geldeard (Geldeart)(Geldeard)(Geldard)
1893 James Edward Bilsborough
Believed to have been closed on the 10th October 1894. There had been no application made to renew the licence on 29th August 1894.
1876 - 77 Henry Gibson Thompson
1877 - 79 Adam Blackburn
1879 - 81 Robert Wilkinson
1881 - 85 James Edward Billsborough
1885 - 86 William Thomas Bilsboruogh
1886 - 88 Elizabeth Alice Bilsborough
1888 - 89 Elizabeth Fell
1890 - 93 Alfred Geldeard (Geldeart)(Geldeard)(Geldard)
1893 James Edward Bilsborough
Believed to have been closed on the 10th October 1894. There had been no application made to renew the licence on 29th August 1894.
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PRESTON'S PIONEER
ODDFELLOWS.
Origin and Development.
Parent of American Societies.
To attempt to deal with the history of friendly societies in Preston, and to omit reference to the Duke of York Lodge of the Manchester United Parent Lodge, would be equivalent to preventing the play of Hamlet with the Prince of Denmark left out,
The Duke of York Lodge is the pioneer and parent lodge of the Preston district. Prior to it foundation the principles of Oddfellowship were unknown in the town. Recently the lodge held its 88th annual meeting, so it is apparent that it has seen many upheavals.
The first meeting was held in the Green Man Inn, Lord Street, and the ink in which the minutes were recorded is faded with age and the orthography has a quaint look.
Two extracts will serve to show the splendid spirit which animated the Preston Oddfellows of the early 19th century. They are:
'It was agreed that each brother of the lodge shall pay one shilling at the death of a brother to defray the expenses of his funeral, besides what can be allowed from the lodge.'
It was further agreed:
'That each brother of the lodge shall pay at the death of a brother's wife, one shilling to pay the expenses of the funeral.'
These minutes related to a meeting that was held on the 24th June 1816, but a short time after the opening of the lodge, and it will be readily conceived that by that time the accumulated funds of the lodge would not have assumed very great dimensions.
PROBABLE ORIGIN
In those days the only places to hear the newspapers read - for few could read - join in a song and talk over the affairs of state, were the public-houses. One company thus inclined met periodically at the Windmill Inn, Moor Lane, Preston, so early as 1812.
In 1813 a sort of membership was agreed upon, apparently to help any necessitous associate. This went n a few years, and it is probably not far off the book to suggest that from gentlemen animated by a spirit of fraternity, the Duke of York would obtain some of its first members. This, while not authentic, is distinctly likely.
The termination of the war with France by the victory at Waterloo, "On the memorable 18th day of June, 1815" brought home to Preston many who had served in the militia, volunteer force and the army reserve, who had been called up for the defence of the kingdom.
Amongst those to return were Wm. Topping of the militia, and Samuel Pemberton of the rifle brigade, both of whom had been made Oddfellows.
DATE OF FOUNDATION
Doubtless these men were instrumental in obtaining the dispensation from the Abercrombie Grand Lodge, Salford, to open a lodge to be called the "Duke of York" at the Windmill Inn, Preston, on the 25th September,1815.
The bearer of the dispensation was P.G. Topping, and on the opening night four officers attended from Manchester and instituted some half a dozen members, amongst whom was P.P.G.M. George Ward, who died in 1866, but who will be well-remembered by the older members of the Duke of York Lodge.
When the Duke of York Lodge was opened, its nearest neighbour was the Lodge at Salford, and it had not the advantages of ready means of conference. Therefore the Duke of York started in somewhat isolated fashion.
EARLY DIFFICULTIES
The Lodge had its early difficulties. There were few members, and cares were many, and the contributions of the members barely sufficed to meet the expenses incurred in relieving travellers passing through the town. Meanwhile, food was at famine prices, and work exceedingly scarce. Still the members struggled on.
By the year 1819 the lodged had changed its quarters, and in their new home, the Green Man in Lord Street, they formulated a dispensation destined to carry and extend the principles of Oddfellowship in the new world. It was conveyed to America by Bro. John Crowder of the Duke of York Lodge, and the seed thus set, ripened into the American Order, which in 1859 had a membership of 177,000.
The civil war played havoc in the ranks of the American brethren, but in 1869 the figures rose again, for there were at that time near 300,000 members in the western continent.
The 1822 Guild
Lodges of Oddfellows were numbered in the year 1820 each according to its seniority. The Duke of York became "seventeenth." In 1822 on the occasion of the Preston Guild we find it authentically stated that 250 Oddfellows walked in procession. At that time the strength of the Duke of York Lodge was only about 30, so that contingents from Blackburn, Bolton, Burnley, Chorley, Clitheroe and Wigan had to make up this, at that day, an exceedingly imposing array.
In the early days of the Duke of York there was considerable elasticity in several respects. In 1816 either 15s or £1. 1s. could be charged for initiation, it was optional, the contributions during the Lodge's first ten years were of a very irregular character, and sick grants were arranged in accordance with the necessity of the cases and the amount they could raise amongst themselves.
REGULAR CONTRIBUTIONS
Tiring of this uncertainty the members, in 1826, commenced paying contributions at the rate of 3d per week first, and afterwards 3.5d per week, and giving benefits 8s per week for sickness and £10 at the death of a member of his wife. They did not scruple to make a funeral allowance for members' children.
Fortunately for the pioneer lodge the calls were few. They fulfilled their obligations, and in 1830 had a balance in the hands of the landlord of the Fleece Inn, whither they had removed. The balance was £36, the value being £1 per member.
The first doctor to the Duke of York Lodge was John Orrell, who was appointed in 1834.
Oddfellowship was gradually becoming popular, and in 1840 the Duke of York Lodge had 353 members, and a capital of £551.
PRESENT MEMBERSHIP
Its present membership is 231, and its meetings are held at the Boar's Head, Friargate. There is a decline in membership as will be seen by comparison, but in the matter of worth per member the lodge at present is in an infinitely better position than it was in 1840, for as against 353 members and £551, the lodge's membership are now 231 and £2,880 respectively. The two oldest members on the books of the Duke of York Lodge are aged 81 and 91 respectively.
At present the destinies of the lodge are guided by Mr. J.B. Newsham as permanent secretary, Mr. Thomas Hall Junior, who fills the N.G.'s chair, and other officials.
Preston Herald 6th February 1904
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DEATH: Last week, Mr. John Hogget, formerly
of the Green Man public-house, Preston
Lancaster Gazette 25th April 1807
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PRESTON'S PIONEER
ODDFELLOWS.
Origin and Development.
Parent of American Societies.
To attempt to deal with the history of friendly societies in Preston, and to omit reference to the Duke of York Lodge of the Manchester United Parent Lodge, would be equivalent to preventing the play of Hamlet with the Prince of Denmark left out,
The Duke of York Lodge is the pioneer and parent lodge of the Preston district. Prior to it foundation the principles of Oddfellowship were unknown in the town. Recently the lodge held its 88th annual meeting, so it is apparent that it has seen many upheavals.
The first meeting was held in the Green Man Inn, Lord Street, and the ink in which the minutes were recorded is faded with age and the orthography has a quaint look.
Two extracts will serve to show the splendid spirit which animated the Preston Oddfellows of the early 19th century. They are:
'It was agreed that each brother of the lodge shall pay one shilling at the death of a brother to defray the expenses of his funeral, besides what can be allowed from the lodge.'
It was further agreed:
'That each brother of the lodge shall pay at the death of a brother's wife, one shilling to pay the expenses of the funeral.'
These minutes related to a meeting that was held on the 24th June 1816, but a short time after the opening of the lodge, and it will be readily conceived that by that time the accumulated funds of the lodge would not have assumed very great dimensions.
PROBABLE ORIGIN
In those days the only places to hear the newspapers read - for few could read - join in a song and talk over the affairs of state, were the public-houses. One company thus inclined met periodically at the Windmill Inn, Moor Lane, Preston, so early as 1812.
In 1813 a sort of membership was agreed upon, apparently to help any necessitous associate. This went n a few years, and it is probably not far off the book to suggest that from gentlemen animated by a spirit of fraternity, the Duke of York would obtain some of its first members. This, while not authentic, is distinctly likely.
The termination of the war with France by the victory at Waterloo, "On the memorable 18th day of June, 1815" brought home to Preston many who had served in the militia, volunteer force and the army reserve, who had been called up for the defence of the kingdom.
Amongst those to return were Wm. Topping of the militia, and Samuel Pemberton of the rifle brigade, both of whom had been made Oddfellows.
DATE OF FOUNDATION
Doubtless these men were instrumental in obtaining the dispensation from the Abercrombie Grand Lodge, Salford, to open a lodge to be called the "Duke of York" at the Windmill Inn, Preston, on the 25th September,1815.
The bearer of the dispensation was P.G. Topping, and on the opening night four officers attended from Manchester and instituted some half a dozen members, amongst whom was P.P.G.M. George Ward, who died in 1866, but who will be well-remembered by the older members of the Duke of York Lodge.
When the Duke of York Lodge was opened, its nearest neighbour was the Lodge at Salford, and it had not the advantages of ready means of conference. Therefore the Duke of York started in somewhat isolated fashion.
EARLY DIFFICULTIES
The Lodge had its early difficulties. There were few members, and cares were many, and the contributions of the members barely sufficed to meet the expenses incurred in relieving travellers passing through the town. Meanwhile, food was at famine prices, and work exceedingly scarce. Still the members struggled on.
By the year 1819 the lodged had changed its quarters, and in their new home, the Green Man in Lord Street, they formulated a dispensation destined to carry and extend the principles of Oddfellowship in the new world. It was conveyed to America by Bro. John Crowder of the Duke of York Lodge, and the seed thus set, ripened into the American Order, which in 1859 had a membership of 177,000.
The civil war played havoc in the ranks of the American brethren, but in 1869 the figures rose again, for there were at that time near 300,000 members in the western continent.
The 1822 Guild
Lodges of Oddfellows were numbered in the year 1820 each according to its seniority. The Duke of York became "seventeenth." In 1822 on the occasion of the Preston Guild we find it authentically stated that 250 Oddfellows walked in procession. At that time the strength of the Duke of York Lodge was only about 30, so that contingents from Blackburn, Bolton, Burnley, Chorley, Clitheroe and Wigan had to make up this, at that day, an exceedingly imposing array.
In the early days of the Duke of York there was considerable elasticity in several respects. In 1816 either 15s or £1. 1s. could be charged for initiation, it was optional, the contributions during the Lodge's first ten years were of a very irregular character, and sick grants were arranged in accordance with the necessity of the cases and the amount they could raise amongst themselves.
REGULAR CONTRIBUTIONS
Tiring of this uncertainty the members, in 1826, commenced paying contributions at the rate of 3d per week first, and afterwards 3.5d per week, and giving benefits 8s per week for sickness and £10 at the death of a member of his wife. They did not scruple to make a funeral allowance for members' children.
Fortunately for the pioneer lodge the calls were few. They fulfilled their obligations, and in 1830 had a balance in the hands of the landlord of the Fleece Inn, whither they had removed. The balance was £36, the value being £1 per member.
The first doctor to the Duke of York Lodge was John Orrell, who was appointed in 1834.
Oddfellowship was gradually becoming popular, and in 1840 the Duke of York Lodge had 353 members, and a capital of £551.
PRESENT MEMBERSHIP
Its present membership is 231, and its meetings are held at the Boar's Head, Friargate. There is a decline in membership as will be seen by comparison, but in the matter of worth per member the lodge at present is in an infinitely better position than it was in 1840, for as against 353 members and £551, the lodge's membership are now 231 and £2,880 respectively. The two oldest members on the books of the Duke of York Lodge are aged 81 and 91 respectively.
At present the destinies of the lodge are guided by Mr. J.B. Newsham as permanent secretary, Mr. Thomas Hall Junior, who fills the N.G.'s chair, and other officials.
Preston Herald 6th February 1904
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DEATH: Last week, Mr. John Hogget, formerly
of the Green Man public-house, Preston
Lancaster Gazette 25th April 1807
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INSOLVENT DEBTOR
ROGER WOODCOCK. formerly of Longton, in the County of Lancaster, farmer and gardener, afterwards of the Green Man, Lord Street, Preston, in the said county, publican, farmer and gardener, then of Loyd Street, Manchester, Cow-keeper, and late of Longton, labourer.
Lancaster Gazette 15th November 1834
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Preston Chronicle 30th April 1836
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Note the information given below Lot 5
Preston Chronicle 23rd March 1850
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Preston Chronicle 2nd October 1852
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Preston Chronicle 15th January 1853
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Preston Chronicle 13th February 1858
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TO BREEDERS OF FIRST-CLASS PIGS
JOHN ASPDEN, Green Man, Lord Street,
has now two first-class BOARS, to which he
calls the attention of all breeders of such animals.
Preston Chronicle 11th May 1861
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Preston Chronicle 31st May 1862
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WANTED
A COWMAN, immediately.
Apply to Mr. ASPDEN, Green Man,
Lord Street, Preston.
Preston Chronicle 23rd March 1867
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Preston Guardian 15th February 1879
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CENSUS RETURNS
1841
William Hayes 35 years Publican [d. 8.11.1841 aged 38 years]
Isabella Hayes 34 Wife
James Hayes 10 Son
Charles Hayes 8 Son
Ann Hayes 3 Daughter [Domestic servant to a physician in Wigan in 1851??]
Sarah Hayes 20 Sister??
1851
Squire Westenholme 39 years ? Publican b. Heywood
Charlotte Westenholme 33 Wife b. Upfield ? Sussex
Margaret (Mary)? Westenholme 8 Daughter b. Preston
John Westenholme 5 Son do
Squire Westenholme 3 Son do
Catherine B. Shay ? 22 Domestic Servant b. Limerick, Ireland.
Catherine B. Shay ? 22 Domestic Servant b. Limerick, Ireland.
1861
John Aspden 38 years Publican b. Rishton
Mary Aspden 32 Wife b. Yorkshire
Mary Jane Aspden 6 Daughter b. Blackburn
Martin Aspden 5 Son do
1871
Robert Kirkham 31 years Publican b. Weeton?
Margaret Kirkham 25 Wife do
1881
James Edward Billsborough 36 years Publican b. Preston
Agnes Ann Billsborough 36 Wife b. Westmoreland
Charles Billsborough 10 Son b. Preston
Edward Billsborough 1 Son do
1891
Albert Geldeard 21 years Publican b. Preston
Robert Geldeard 45 Father b. Whitworth
Margaret Geldeard 45 Mother b. Preston
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Steve, My name is Edna Billsborough and I am researching the Billsborough's so I can pass something on to my children and Grandchildren. My Husband Brian Billsborough and I married in 1959 and emigrated to Canada in 1969 Unfortunately, Brian died in 1975 but I remained in Canada. James Edward who owned the Green Man in in Lord St. was Brian's great grandad. I learned he was the publican of the Green Man from the 1881 census. I didn't know he was a publican again in 1893 till I saw this page. Do you have any peronal info on James Edward and the other Billsboroughs that were publicans of the Green Man. Are you a relative of the Halliwells that own the book store in Friagate? I often used to go into that store. I am over in Preston in May and hope to pick up the book on pubs. Any info you can give me would be gratefully appreciated. I will be 83 years old this year so I am eager to get something on paper soon as one never knows what the future holds. Yours sincerely, Edna Billsborough.1881==================
ReplyDeleteHello Edna.
DeleteThanks for that. I don't have any information to hand, but will endeavour to find some. If you write to me by email at srh.steve@aol.co.uk it would be better if I send any replies by that medium than on the website. I used to work with a man called Billsborough (Phillip), so I'll contact him to ask if he's related. It's not an uncommon name in the Preston area.