ANCHOR'S WEIGHED INN #
270 (Later 86 Ribbleton Lane)
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MINE HOSTS
1851 - 77 John Collinson
1881 - 83 Joseph Thornley
1883 - 84 Francis Nickson
1884 John Bickle
1884 - 88 William Beesley
1888 - 91 James Rigg
1891 - 96 Margaret Rigg
1896 - 99 Simpson Parker Bell
1899 - 1901 William Henry Wray
1901 Robert Breakell
1902 - 1909 Joseph Craven - information from a descendant extends J.C.'s tenure by 2 years to 1909.
1910 c- 1920 John Maddock
1921 - 27 Joseph Brindle
1929 ? Bickle - daughters Sarah and Alice.
1930 - 32 William Robley
1936 Richard Speight
1940 Walter Clarkson
1944 - 48. Francis Martin
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| Preston Chronicle 9th November 1867 |
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Lancashire Evening Post 7th April 1920
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CENSUS RETURN
1851
John Collinson 42 years Beerseller b. Osbaldeston
Elizabeth Collinson 43 Wife b. Salmesbury
James Collinson 14 Son b. Preston
John Collinson 6 Son b. Hoghton
Margaret Collinson 17 Daughter do
Sarah Ann Collinson 13 Daughter do
1871
John Collinson 63 years Innkeeper b. Osbaldeston
Elizabeth Collinson 63 Wife b. Salmesbury
Catherine Collinson 23 Daughter b. Preston
Seina (or Sylvia) Collinson 20 Daughter do
William Henry Collinson 18 Son do
1881
Joseph Thornley 55 years Innkeeper b. Cuerden
Alice Thornley 50 Wife b. Whittle
James Thornley 21 Son b. Preston
William Thornley 15 Son do
1891
Margaret Rigg 31 years Beerseller b. Preston
widow
1901
William H. Wray 44 years Beerseller b. Preston
Mary A.E. Wray 33 Wife do
Frederick Wray 17 Son do
Margaret Wray 13 Daughter do
Thomas Wray 12 Son do
Sarah Wray 9 Daughter do
Elizabeth Wray 5 Daughter do
James Wray 7 months Son do
1911
John Maddock 33 years Beerseller b. Preston
Sarah Jane Maddock 37 Wife / Assistant do
Mary Maddock 2 months Daughter do
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My grandmother (b. April 1909), who was the daughter of Joseph and Mary Ellen Craven always said that she was born in the Anchor's Weighed. I realise that there is a gap in the list of landlords for that period and wondered if Joseph Craven (my g.grandfather) may have renewed the licence from 1907-1910.
ReplyDeleteThanks for that.
DeleteYes, there's every likelihood the information is correct. The dates given in all my accounts have been derived from Trade Directories; Census Returns; Newspaper Reports; and other similar sources. The sort of thing you're telling me is very much "family" material.
I have tried to avoid assumptions, so that where you have the same landlord in 1885 and 1895, it is dangerous to assume that he was there for the whole of that period. I have come across landlords who have had two and even three stints at a pub.
I think the information you give, is good evidence that the Cravens were there in 1909, and I will amend the record accordingly. The place WILL have been licensed during the missing years.
Any further information will be gratefully received and used.
Thanks again...........Steve H
Thank you for your reply, your website has been so valuable for providing information about where the Cravens - James and Agnes, née Wareing, and Joseph and Mary Ellen - were living over the years; we knew about the Lark Hill Tavern, Crystal Palace, The Anchor's Weighed and The Albert Hotel - but not in which order, or about the other premises with which they were associated. The site has also provided details of Agnes Craven's first husband (Thomas Wareing) when she and he were at the Little John Inn and I'm now trying to find out her original maiden name to trace the family back further on that side.
DeleteIt's also great to see photographs of the pubs for the first time, as none survive of the premises within the family. My flickr pages have photographs of some members of the Craven family (none of Joseph, unfortunately) during their time as licensees of the Anchor's Weighed / The Albert Hotel.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/47170853@N04/sets/72157624284119586/
Thanks for your kind comments.
DeleteIt's only when I get correspondence from readers like yourself, that I get drawn closer to that particular family. In this case, for instance, I note from the 1911 census that Joseph and Mary Ellen had had three other children who had died. Very sad, but all too common.
Your comments regarding the site having given you the ability to track the movements of your family is very rewarding to me, and is precisely the reason why I encourage people to share their knowledge. It all helps to build up the bigger picture, for the benefit hopefully, of all.
Don't get me going on jig-saws!
I don't know all the details of the deceased children (and I haven't yet made it to the LRO to look at the 1911 census since it was released), but the story handed down from my great-grandmother Mary Ellen is that they lived, respectively, three weeks, three months and the last one (Joseph) for three years. I believe he died before my grandmother Mary Winifred was born; she told me that Joseph - who I think was sickly - was looked after by a lady who popped out, at his request, to buy him "a little geegee" from the shop opposite (on Ribbleton Lane??)and when she returned he was dead. Very sad.
DeleteThe lady may have been Kate the servant (though I think that title greatly understates her role) pictured in one of the studio portraits on Flickr. She looked after my grandmother when she was small, pulling her along the pub floor on a cushion as Kate scrubbed it. Mary W (who died aged 83 in 1992) recalled that she saw more of Kate when little than she did of Mary Ellen, who was so busy with the pub (The Albert by this point) and had started cooking lunchtime meals for mill workers - quite a novel idea at the time - which proved popular.
Mary W had a very close relationship with her parents, but her early years in pubs caused a lifelong aversion to licensed premises. Customers at the Albert would pay her a penny to smile and show her dimples.
One thing I am trying to search out (and I may never find it) is the property owned by James Craven, Joseph Craven's father. Mary W recalled that her grandfather would sit in the pub while she curled his beard into "cockleshells" and tell her of the row of houses which he owned which would one day be hers. Unfortunately he gambled them away - so the story goes.
If James Craven was a solicitor (there was one), please write to me at prestonbirder@aol.com
DeleteIt would be better to do that rather than converse on a page that is irrelevant.
Steve H
I think I've answered my own question re James.
DeleteHowever, looking at the Ribbleton Mill Tavern
http://pubsinpreston.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/ribbleton-mill-tavern-german-street.html
If you look at the advert from 1854, there are twelve cottages being offered with the sale of the beer-house. If they were still included with the property when James took it, do you think they were the ones he referred to to your grand-mother?
Wow am stunned!, My Grandad , Fredrick Donald Wareing apparently had family associated with pubs and brewing ,i heard this from my grandmother (his wife) that the lot was blown on gambling , i know his fathers name was Alfred Wareing (don't know if Aflred his fist or second name as my Grandad was known as Don.My grandadad died in 1983 so no longer around to ask and this all i know about his family , just find it a coincidence that you have similar family history and the surname is spelt with the 'e' before 'ing'
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